All episodesJul 17, 2026

He Quit AT&T, Then Turned Down His Old Boss's Job Offer

Episode 12 · Justin Meyer

About this episode

Join host Anthony Mistretta for a raw conversation with fitness coach and bodybuilder Justin Meyer. An AT&T enterprise sales alum turned full-time trainer and coach. Just six months after quitting corporate on a self-imposed deadline, with no guaranteed income and a coach's blunt advice ringing in his ears, Justin talks through the fear of leaving stability, the father figures who shaped his discipline, and why 'nothing changes if nothing changes.' Delve into the world of JMF, betting on yourself before you feel ready, and building community instead of just a following.

Transcript

Welcome to the Ambiguous Truth. I'm your host, Anthony Mistretta, and today we're gonna talk with a friend of mine who left his corporate job in January of this year and is now focusing on training full time professionally. I didn't think I was gonna quit my job so soon. And now because I'm not quite there yet, in terms of I'm not making money from the podcast yet. So there's a lot of fear around diving into something that is very unsure. There's no income coming my way. Right. So I guess could you just shine a little bit of color on your journey from corporate, who you work for, what you were doing. And then kind of what was able to catalyze that leap to doing your own thing.

Welcome to the Ambiguous Truth. I'm your host, Anthony Mistretta, and today we're gonna talk with a friend of mine who left his corporate job in January of this year and is now focusing on training full time professionally. I didn't think I was gonna quit my job so soon. And now because I'm not quite there yet, in terms of I'm not making money from the podcast yet. So there's a lot of fear around diving into something that is very unsure. There's no income coming my way. Right. So I guess could you just shine a little bit of color on your journey from corporate, who you work for, what you were doing. And then kind of what was able to catalyze that leap to doing your own thing.

Yeah, 100%. And first off, it's scary, right? It's never easy to make that jump from stability to the land unknown. So I started my career working for AT&T back in 2019, business to business sales, enterprise sales. At that point, I saw myself climbing up the ranks — one day I want to be director, one day I want to be VP. Because that's all I ever knew, right? That's kind of what they teach you in school — get the job, keep moving up, get the family, get the house. All these different things that are born into us. So went through that, moved around to different positions, kept moving up through the corporate ladder. And then it hit me one day — I don't know if I want to do this the rest of my life. I was getting to the point where I'd see people at my same level but in their forties, fifties, maybe even sixties, and I'm like, I can't do this for another 30, 40 years. This is not giving me the drive and passion I want out of life.

100% that makes sense. Was there a specific moment you can recall when it hit you?

I think it kind of built up over time, because with corporate there's great flexibility, the pay is great, you get the insurance. But as I started to build out J Meyer Fitness, JMF for short — once I got started I was like, okay, this is a side project, we're gonna take on a couple clients, start building out my social media. And then I was like, why can't I do this full time? So that was the point where we started looking at not just a one year plan, but a two year plan — where do I wanna be in two years so I can make this jump.

Yeah, gotcha. When you started, were you making money from J Meyer Fit at all?

I was making a little bit, but not enough to put gas in my tank. It wasn't at a point where it could sustain my lifestyle, or even my expenses — rent, car payment, groceries. So it started at that small level, but then just took practice — another client, more testimonials, sharing those stories to build the business to the point where I could make the jump.

Okay. And when you did make the jump, you felt more comfortable about leaping because money was coming in?

100%. I went about it in a very strategic fashion — kind of the midpoint of last year before I made the jump. Christmas or Thanksgiving coming up — corporate people don't work too hard during that time anyway, so I was like, let's get through that. Seeing where I was at from a savings perspective and where I'd built the client base, that's when I could make the jump. I was actually working with my coach and he said, "Dude, you just gotta put a date on the calendar. If you keep saying you're gonna do this without a hard date, you're never gonna do it." That was one of the tipping points. When I put that date on my whiteboard, it was like, all right, it's go time.

Yeah. You assign a goal, a very clear one. And for me, if I see something and I don't hit it, it sparks something in me to push forward.

Exactly. 100%. Staring at it every single day — all right, we gotta make this work because we said we're gonna do this, and I'm not the type to go back on my word. So now here we are six months later.

Yeah. Take us back to your childhood. Can you talk about what it was like, and how that shaped some of your decisions?

Yeah, one hundred percent. This isn't something I typically talk about easily, but it's pretty common — growing up in a divorced household. I'm from Kansas City, Missouri. My parents divorced when I was one and a half or two. That's all I've ever known — bouncing between mom's and dad's, swapping weekends. So from a young age I learned to take care of myself. Fitness was one of the constants in my life — no matter whether I was at mom's, dad's, whatever fights were going on, school — fitness kept me grounded.

Could you imagine a world where fitness isn't there?

I can't. It sounds weird, maybe cliché, but when I was working corporate and got done with work, if I didn't have fitness I don't know what else I'd do. It's something innate that drives me to build the next best version of myself.

Yeah. By lifting heavy circles. I like that. Has it taken different forms?

Yeah — sixth grade is when I started weightlifting, geared towards sports, trying to get bigger for football. Never been the biggest, strongest, or fastest guy, but I've always been the hardest worker in the room. That mantra's carried me from childhood into adulthood.

When did you get into bodybuilding? Any other forms of lifting?

Bodybuilding last year, my first year competing.

How'd that go?

I'll toot my own horn — went out and won the first show. Great hot start. We got this in the bag, let's do another one. Went out, did the next one, took second place.

There it is. Told you we gotta mark those.

Yeah — I fuck that up, end up getting fireworks going off or something?

Yeah, but no — that one's for the second place one.

Okay. So won that first show, did two more right after, basically back to back. Great first season — proving to myself, when I lock in, here's what I can accomplish. Since then I've competed in two Hyrox events — more for fun, another form of challenging myself. Don't necessarily enjoy running but it's a running-heavy sport. How can I still compete for myself even though I'm not the fastest or strongest? Got Hyrox Denver coming up — solo debut on the home turf. We'll see if the elevation kicks my ass.

Have you done any cross training, hybrid training type stuff?

I switch it up — mostly resistance/strength training five days a week, plus HIIT out at the yard in Arvada twice or three times a week for cardio endurance for Hyrox.

And then I wanna hear about the field day I saw you share about. A buddy of mine in Atlanta did a field day in Piedmont Park — roughly the size of a city park, culture of like a Cheesman Park or Wash Park.

City Park — I think that's kind of a shitty park. Rename it "Shitty Park." It's just big, has a water feature, but boring.

But anyway, he hosted this field day and we played flag football, dodgeball, all the field day games. It was a blast. So I watched your reel but didn't dive in — share the inspiration for that and what it entails.

Yeah, JMF Field Days — a little different spin, I still bring a football, a soccer ball. Somebody brought a razor scooter last year.

On grass?

Turf field, but yeah, just random recess vibes. I got the inspiration through First Form, attending their Summer Smash — an annual customer appreciation event plus brand affiliates. The whole company gets together, parties — it's a fitness festival. Working out in the mornings, hanging out, then maybe a rodeo or PBR at night. That ends with what's called Thirty for the Kids — a charity First Form started to support local youth stateside and kids in Haiti, school supplies, meals, toiletries. The workout is thirty minutes — ten push-ups, twenty sit-ups, thirty air squats, running to the opposite side of the field between each. Very inclusive because at their events you've got a thousand, two thousand people doing this — everyone running by, high-fiving, laughing, maybe somebody puking up beer from the night before.

And bringing that here to Denver.

And bringing that here to Denver. Started JMF Field Days two years ago, third year now, renting out Manual High School's turf field, bringing together five or six vendors from health and wellness verticals, and just getting the people together, man. That's what I love to do.

What would you say is your absolute favorite part of your job?

That's a tough one. It's the people, man — without the people, I and my business am nothing. I don't want to just post online "hey look, I won a bodybuilding show." I wanna lead for my people. Truly it's the people that make the business and make my life what it is now.

Do you ever think back to where you might be if you were still at AT&T?

I think I'd have more in my bank account — jokingly. There would've been this need for something different regardless. Maybe if it wasn't fitness, it would've been cooking or mountain biking. Something — I couldn't see myself sitting at that desk for the rest of my life.

You've taken a very entrepreneurial path, and a lot of entrepreneurial people I know seem to have quite a few streams of income. What are all the levers you're pulling for income? How'd you find them — hidden in the dark, or did mentors guide you towards monetization?

That was a key factor in my decision to leave corporate — understanding where I'm pulling revenue from. First one is client acquisition — that drives money into the business, working with folks to change their lives. Driver number one. Secondly, brand partnerships — being partnered with First Form, I've been on their products for damn near a decade.

You've mentioned First Form a couple times — is that a supplement brand?

Correct. I'm repping their gear right now.

Hashtag ad. Sponsorship?

Yeah. When I started JMF, they were the first company I reached out to for affiliation. I pride myself on never recommending something I don't use myself daily. I'd already been on their products seven or eight years. Very natural fit. But back to revenue — partnerships are number two, client acquisition is number one. And events — I don't make anything off these, dude. I do it to get people together, as long as I'm covering expenses, maybe even in the hole a little. Worth it to get 50, 100, 200 people together through health and wellness. I had this cool moment at the last event — lights down, DJs bumping, videographers running around — I'm standing in the middle of the workout looking around and it brought a huge smile to my face. This is the shit I love. That was the moment it felt like, okay, this is what I'm meant to do.

Probably didn't get that experience at AT&T.

Maybe a little sliver of it with a promotion, but not that. Seeing my clients win, getting texts and feedback from them — that's what brings my heart joy and makes it all worth it.

Shifting gears — what's been the hardest part about shifting away from a tried-and-true career path to something more nebulous?

Learning how to say no and being okay with that. Different events, weddings, trips — my friend group's very active, shout out the MF Dogs. Concert tickets, nights out, dinners. When you make that shift, it's not all-in or all-out — I take the same approach with health and wellness, there's flexibility — but if something's gonna set me back from my goals, I have to say no. Just like prepping for a bodybuilding show. Even partnerships — if a brand reaches out and I don't personally use them, that's where I draw the ethical line. I'm not gonna recommend a toothpaste I don't use — but also, we're talking about toothpaste —

You don't use toothpaste?

No — look, set the record straight, I do use toothpaste, damn it, I had to.

Shout out Sensodyne. Is that your toothpaste of choice?

That's the go-to. I don't know how I got on it — maybe I was a crushed kid growing up.

I've been experimenting a lot. Do you know the app — Yuka? Do you use that?

I don't, but I've been told about it.

You scan the barcodes on things and it gives you a score.

Bro, all toothpaste is dog shit.

But if you read what's bad about it, it's things that cause irritation, not carcinogens. So it's not that bad.

So — all of them were like 40s. Number one, dentist-recommended Sensodyne, forty out of a hundred.

Whoa. Ten out of ten doctors recommended it.

Well, you paid those ten doctors.

Yeah, also probably true.

I don't know why we're talking about toothpaste, but I've been rotating through a few to find what I like.

You'll have to report back.

I will. I'll make a spreadsheet. I won't do that — that's not true.

Actually — two things are coming up from this interview. You seem very disciplined, and very structured. Saying no to things, and it took clarity around income to actually make the corporate leap — you seem a little risk-averse. Whereas last week I interviewed Calvin, and he had the exact opposite approach — kind of more me — just fucking dive in, rip the band-aid off. Have you always been that way?

Yeah, I think I have. Attribute it to childhood — being methodical with my time, whose house I'd be at, when I had practice. Never really thought about that structure originating there. Through college too, and a lot of it from the corporate world — enterprise sales, if you're not structured you're three sheets to the wind and out the door. Keeping that same structure for my business now has been crucial. Time-blocking things out. Entrepreneurship, everybody thinks it's just hiking and tanning whenever you want — there's still work to be done. Maybe it's eight to ten PM, but that work has to get done, and if I'm not doing it, nobody else is.

Do you think discipline is a muscle you've grown throughout entrepreneurship?

Especially the last six months — up at five thirty every day, locked in working by six or six thirty, work hours until three or three thirty, then hit the gym. After that, content editing. Discipline for me is rooted in business structure and daily health and wellness. Motivation comes and goes, discipline carries you through. Certain days that 5:30 alarm goes off in winter and the sun's not up yet —

Here we go. But I feel that.

At the end of the day, you just put both feet on the ground and get the day rolling.

Any exercises that have helped support your discipline?

Take a look at the current week — Monday through Sunday. Write out what event you have each day, whatever calendar you use. Work backwards — what's the workout I need to hit today, when am I in office versus out. This is what I work with my clients on — get structured in their week. Then it's just gotta go out and execute.

What's been the biggest trial, the biggest adversity you've had to overcome in your life?

Growing up in that divorced family. My mom remarried when I was two — I had my biological dad, and technically my stepdad, but I saw him just as another dad. Him being one of my main father figures, and then him passing my junior year of college. That was a fork in the road — may or may not have punched a hole in the wall — but it was, okay, we're gonna grieve, but we've got two routes: ball out or bitch out. No bitching. We balled out, got a 4.0 that semester, locked in on workouts, used it as fuel instead of letting it pull me down. If I can get through somebody passing, I can get through fucking anything else. The motivation came and went, but I made a promise to myself I was gonna see it through.

I appreciate you sharing that. Can you paint a vision of your long term goals with this — maybe fitness is an avenue into something bigger?

It comes back to the people. I want to help as many people as possible — there's never gonna be a shortage of people who need help with health, especially where America's at. I love seeing trends where younger folks aren't partaking in alcohol as much, or they balance a night out with a wellness event the next day — sauna, cold plunge, a 5K. I want to continue building as a pillar within health and wellness, throwing events, inspiring and helping as many people as possible.

I like the community piece too. For most of my life going to the gym was very isolating — just me, my headphones. Within the last four or five years that's changed. The gym I went to in Atlanta was an amazing community — going out with friends after, grabbing lunch, working out together on weekends. Opened my eyes to what a wellness space could look like. Then moving to Australia, in Perth, I got embedded in the wellness scene there — breathwork, sauna, ice baths, meditation, community events. That community piece pairs so nicely with wellness events.

100%. I don't feel like it's been as in-my-face here as it's been in the past.

Where are we, specifically in Denver, in the community wellness space? You were just in Austin for a massive event, right?

I was in Austin for a bachelor party, but I was in Saint Louis for Summer Smash with First Form.

Okay, okay. I thought it was Austin because there's so much wellness stuff going on there. Am I blind to it, or are we just on the beginning edge of the wellness community space?

I think it's blowing up right now. I was talking with a buddy, Bobby, about community and what it truly means. He said — getting people together in a room is not community. Seeing what they do after that, the mission they're on — that's community. It's not enough to get fifty or a hundred people together for a workout and say see you later — what value are they taking and applying to their lives, their families? That's the impact. It's great to throw a cold plunge event, but if it stops when the event stops, that's not community. That's a missing piece, not just in Denver but in general.

Especially in the Western world, which is so individualist — we're encouraged toward the nuclear family, buy a house, contained in this little unit. Not a bad thing — I'm grateful I don't come from a divorced family, I have an intact family unit. But I see a lot of value in what community can bring. I have a friend I met on the east coast of Australia, just north of Sydney.

This is how American I am — you say "east coast," I'm thinking Philly, Florida, the Carolinas.

You're like, no, the land down under. Very southeast, or southwest, I don't even know, I flew west there I think. Anyway — met her on the east coast of Australia, reconnected with her on the west coast. Unfortunately — well, fortunately — she has a beautiful daughter, and unfortunately when she had the daughter, her partner left, fucked off. She was forced to raise this child alone. Her daughter Atlas is amazing. I'm not really a baby guy — don't know what to do with them — but she's incredible, self-regulates, and I was amazed. As I spent more time with Malia, the mother, I started observing — Malia was great at inviting people over, and she had a lot of men in her life, some married with their own kids, some single, who took on the role of a pseudo-father — a strong male role model for Atlas.

Yeah.

It made me realize Atlas doesn't have one permanent father figure — she has two dozen. There's a lot of value in gaining perspective from twenty adult men who all have your best interests in mind but take different paths — it forces you, in your formative years, to figure out which path aligns with you. That's the whole concept of the title, The Ambiguous Truth — there's your truth. We're on a mission to discover what that truth is for you. And I wish there was more of an invitation to accept other parent figures as another form of truth — they might have a different opinion, but that doesn't make it wrong.

I fully agree — you can see this in people's adulthood, raised to believe this is right or wrong, this is how you do things. Some things clearly are better ways, but it's important to see life from multiple aspects, experience different things. If you stay siloed in your hometown or your bubble, that's all you know, versus experiencing different cultures, cities, jobs — quitting corporate to chase your dream. We only get one life — that's why I got Memento Mori tattooed on me.

Yeah.

Remember your death — or flip it, remember to live each day.

I really like that. Changing gears — your goal is basically to make everyone you touch proud, not just clients. How are you proud of yourself?

I don't see my childhood as some one-off thing — people grow up in divorced households all the time. But I pride myself on going about each day in an optimistic manner, bringing energy into every room I'm in. No matter if I'm having a shitty day — hey, what's up dog, how we doing. No-bad-days mentality — bad things can happen, that doesn't mean it has to be a bad day. My stepdad passing, that was a bad day, within reason. But generally — hey, it's a new opportunity. If we're not having fun and spending time with people we love, or making some form of impact, what are we doing?

I resonate with that. There's so little in our world we can control —

Yep.

— or, there's so much we can't control.

Exactly. So much we can't control.

Why not take the few things we can control and actually control them?

Exactly. Really do. The only two things you can control, against any external factor, are your attitude and your effort. How are you gonna deal with the situation, what are you gonna do about it — attack it full force, or sit back and "woe is me"? I tell my clients, family, friends all the time — these are two things you can control no matter what happens.

Who's been the most influential person in your life?

If I don't say my mom she's gonna kill me — mom, it's you. But honestly, family, I don't know if it's just one person. I'm grateful for growing up in that divorced household because I got closer to my grandparents — they basically raised me, that's why I've got a couple tattoos for them. Maybe it sucked traveling back and forth between mom's and dad's, but I got to see them do the best they could with their circumstance and learn from that. A culmination of parents, my brother, sister, grandparents — that family aspect I look up to most, and want to make proud.

Family's an interesting one — we look at it so narrowly as immediate family, but I've come to appreciate family in a much broader sense.

Yeah.

I love the idea of chosen family. I love my blood family, don't get me wrong —

Yeah.

— but that's a small subset of the broader community I'd call up if I need help. Also, living fifteen hundred miles away, it's nice having someone you can call family who's in the same zip code.

One hundred percent. I relate that to my friend group here — I could call any number of my contacts, say I'm on the side of the road with a flat tire, and ninety-nine percent would be there within twenty minutes if they're nearby. That's also family — because my actual family's all in Kansas City, an eight hour drive away.

Have you had any moments since going out on your own where you've thought about quitting?

Not yet. Actually — funny story. I left January third this year. Within three weeks, my old boss, who I was very close with, calls me — "I'm leaving AT&T, going to work for this AI startup, I want you to be my right hand man." Fuck. I just made this bet on myself. Money's definitely there. Nope — can't do it. Glad it happened early, that I had to stick to my guns.

Mm-hmm.

I bet on myself. If I say I'm gonna do something, I go out and do it. If I take the first shiny job offer after three weeks, what does that say about me? Different stressors come with entrepreneurship, but it's the people who don't do it perfectly, but do the right things consistently for a long time, who get where they want to be. I'm in that grind phase, don't know where the light at the end of the tunnel is, but I'm having fun doing what I want to do daily. What's wrong with that?

Fuck yeah, I love that quote — not the people doing everything perfectly, but doing things right consistently?

Exactly. I tell my clients — I don't expect perfection, I expect intention and consistency. Showing up for yourself, and the same applies to business — show up for yourself and your people first. Lead by example on workouts, nutrition. How do you do this consistently for a long time — put the right systems in place. Burnout's very real in entrepreneurship — people think you gotta work 23 out of 24 hours. Fuck that, I gotta get my eight hours of sleep so I can perform at a high level again and again.

I'm kind of — what's the quote — perfection is the enemy of progress.

Yep.

That hits hard for me — even uploading reels, it's like, is this right, is this what I want, and it's like, dude, it doesn't matter, just —

Send it. Just submit it. Just post it.

Exactly. And then post again.

Right, and post again. You have great content, you post a good bit, I appreciate it.

I definitely look up to you for that — I struggle with it, not technically, but from a "I don't want to do this shit" perspective. I don't detest social media, but I really struggle getting over that hump. If there's anyone else out there like me struggling to make peace with the necessity of creating content — my tattoo artist Kyle was saying yesterday, there's so much garbage tattoo work out there that he almost feels it's his responsibility to make good content because he can.

Yeah.

It's almost my prerogative to go do this. So my question for you — for anyone itching to take this step but doesn't know what it looks like — how do you get over that hump? How do you stick with it?

Can I ask you that question back first?

Of course.

Is it a fear of what people will think, holding you back from posting — or is it the work itself?

I think it's deeper — I'm frustrated with what social media has done to society, and to me, in terms of consuming short form content. I think we're indexing more toward long form content as a society, because there's this constant inundation of short form — some bullshit, some good — did you hear about this, did you see that — when it used to be depth into a small subset of things.

Yep.

There are so many things happening in the world, it's impossible to learn about everything. You have to decide what you actually want to dive into. And because we're so obsessed with short form, no one experiments — this came up talking about Patagonia. Are you familiar with that debacle?

I thought you were just saying it in two different accents.

There's a drag queen named Patigonia.

Okay.

There was a lawsuit where Patagonia the brand was suing her — everything on my feed was "support Patigonia," and I thought that was fucked up, a business trying to get her to change her name — it's just a region they named their brand after. Then I talked to a friend, very progressive, expecting him to side with Patigonia — he said he'd read more into it — turns out Patagonia was putting their trademarked emblems, stickers, in packages sent to buyers —

Okay. Patagonia.

— and that's ultimately what the dispute was about. I haven't researched it fully, but my point is — it's easy to see headlines and side with an activist, I do support Patagonia's sustainability initiatives —

Yep.

— but I understand there's infringement too. My point is, it's so easy to not dive into long form content, not look deeply, and just be inundated with short form brain rot creating dopamine hits — it's effectively addictive.

Yeah.

So that's where my reservations come from — I recognize the necessity of going in this direction to support the business, but there's strain because I don't want to support the larger business of short form consumption.

Yeah.

I'm having a lot of trouble rationalizing that.

I'd say — the name of this podcast, The Ambiguous Truth — tell your truth, show yourself. That's the number one thing that's helped me grow. I don't have a crazy following, under two thousand followers — but that's still a lot of fucking people in a room. Early on I was posting twice a day, very active in my story — and I realized, who cares if I have two thousand or ten thousand followers? If you're bringing value, whether it's twenty people or two hundred thousand, you're making a positive impact by telling your truth, and they're bought into you as a person. I've had a ton of fun with that lately — sitting here, throwing out F-bombs, just being myself. My clients see this raw side of me, my family sees it — why act like someone different online with the perfect script, perfect font, perfect cuts? Fuck all that. Sometimes just hop on, rant for a minute, post it, done. That alleviates the pressure —

Yeah.

— not taking everything so seriously. We still want to provide value, but be yourself with it. That's the number one thing I'd say.

Yeah. I think that was something I really struggled with when I first started this — it felt like an expression, a coming out of a part of my identity I'd previously hidden.

Mm-hmm.

My identity was tied to — do well in high school, go to a good college, get a good job, live an amazing life. I did all that, and then I'm like, wait —

There's something missing. That's the point, right?

Yeah. And because everyone around me at school was aligned in that direction, it was really hard to pump the brakes and say I'm gonna flip the script, no longer doing engineering. When people ask what I do and my answer is "I'm a fucking podcaster" — that's hard to say.

You just gotta say it with your fucking chest.

Yeah, yeah — I am a fucking podcaster.

Dude, it's so funny — even my closest homies, when I started this journey, group chats, FaceTimes, "look at this dude, thinks he's a fitness influencer." Those are the homies bashing you — even the general public, "look at this guy trying to do something different." That's the whole point — I don't want to live that life. The content at first was super cringy, looked like a PowerPoint slideshow, but it's reps — now it's just, provide value and have fun, because people trust you and feel like they know you, even if they've never met you.

Did it sting when people were bashing you, calling you an influencer?

I can't lie, you shrug it off, but there's times you think maybe I shouldn't post this. But fuck it — at the end of the day, you're choosing the path less traveled, you can't worry about people in the rearview mirror.

I like that. Do you have a favorite quote that gets you through tough times?

Memento Mori — tattooed on the back of my calf. You never know when it's gonna be your last day. My stepdad wasn't the only family member I've lost — forged by the fire with that. We're all gonna die someday anyway, so what are we doing this for if we're just gonna pass out one day and not wake up — hopefully that's how it goes, not skydiving out of a plane or something.

Have you skydived?

No, and I'm terrified — really don't want to.

Okay, you might be able to convince me.

Memento Mori — remember your death, or flip it, remember to live.

Yeah.

We're all gonna die at some point, so who cares what content you post, or if you quit corporate to chase your dream and it doesn't work — at least you tried, versus being forty, fifty, sixty and wishing you had.

That's no good at that point. It's not great to live with regrets. There are inflection points where you look in the mirror and ask, do I want to keep feeling this way?

Stir the pot.

Yeah, shake things up.

Exactly. Another quote I love — nothing changes if nothing changes. Apply that to career, relationships, health, where you live. Too many people complain about their job or where they live — you have the power to change it. If you just sit there and complain, you don't actually want it to change. Doesn't mean live recklessly, but there's a strategic way to make it sustainable.

Any advice for someone navigating that calling to shift, like you did leaving AT&T?

First off, financially — have a solid idea of where you'll be making money from. It's great to rip the band-aid off, but eventually the money dries out if you don't have a plan. Secondly — are you in a healthy mental spot for this? Different stressors come with the role change, you change as a person. Last piece — if it's something you're truly passionate about, put that fucking date on the calendar, think about it strategically, and hold yourself to it.

Is this shirt part of the field day?

I started Move Yes a couple years ago — a daily reminder to get out and move. If we're not moving, we're losing. So many health benefits from walking — grab a buddy, go for a ten, twenty minute walk, do it again the next day. I promise your life will change.

I should go walk after this — haven't walked in two days.

I hear those knees popping through the microphone.

Well, you gotta be careful with the sunlight too, though.

Yeah, yeah, I'll put pants on. So — the field day's coming up soon. When is it?

JMF Field Days is going down July 11th, at Manual High School, 9 to 11 a.m. Six or seven vendors lined up, keeping those secret for now, live DJ, that 30 minute workout or a 45 minute walk around the track if you don't want the group workout. Goal is two hundred people — profits go to the Thirty for the Kids foundation. Two hundred people gets me to three thousand dollars to donate, helping kids locally or in Haiti with school supplies, household items, necessities.

Beautiful. Not sold out yet?

Not sold out — link's in my Instagram bio, or on SweatPals.

Where can people find you?

If you're local in Denver, you might catch me around gyms or around the city — pop in, say hi. Otherwise, Instagram at jmeyer_fit. Not dropping my phone number, no phone calls after nine PM.

Anything else you want to get off your chest?

Thank you for this opportunity — when you texted me a month ago, I almost called my mom to tell her. It's been really cool talking about this journey — how much it's helped me over the last six months. If there's something eating at you, figure out a way to go chase the fucking dream — because at the end of the day we're all gonna die at some point, so why stick somewhere we're not enjoying life.

Sick. Thank you so very much.

Yeah, of course.

Dude, I appreciate the time. That meant the world. Had a fuckin' blast.

Fuck yeah, dude.

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